Adding a new template

Hi,

I'm trying to add a new template and want to save it as a PATIENT FORM, I browse and select it but when I tray to save it I get the following error message: Unsupported document template: Canine Hip and Elbow Evaluation Report.pdf

Is this because it's a pdf file? I don't want to have it as an attachment as I want it to be on the system for staff to find at ease. Any suggestions?

Sandra

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Re: Adding a new template

Hi Sandra,

Patient Forms need to be either odt or doc files not pdfs. This is so openvpms can merge details into the form.

Suggest you utilise one of your existing files, modify and upload to template.

Cheers Tony

On 3/06/09 10:19 AM, "Sandra" :

> Hi, > > I'm trying to add a new template and want to save it as a PATIENT FORM, I > browse and select it but when I tray to save it I get the following error > message: Unsupported document template: Canine Hip and Elbow Evaluation > Report.pdf > > Is this because it's a pdf file? I don't want to have it as an attachment as > I want it to be on the system for staff to find at ease. Any suggestions? > > Sandra > _______________________________________________ > OpenVPMS User Mailing List > users@lists.openvpms.org > To unsubscribe or change your subscription visit: > http://lists.openvpms.org/listinfo/users > Posts from this mailing list can be viewed online and replied to in the > OpenVPMS User's forum- http://tinyurl.com/openvfu

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Adding a pdf form to OpenVPMS

Sandra @ Bellarine

Hi Tony,

At times we would like to be able to load a pdf document as a patient form and don't need to merge patient details.

Some examples just today are submission forms from three different organisations.  I tried scanning these and loading them on but when scanned they also turn into pdf documents.  I did a print screen and pasted them into a word document but the quality was poor.  I don't want them to be an attachment because I would like them to be within OpenVPMS so that vets don't have to browse for them elsewhere. I would prefer not to have to re-type them, I think that would be a waste of time.

Would this me a major development? 

Is there anyone else out there that would like this function?

Sandra.

 

 

Re: Adding a pdf form to OpenVPMS

Hi Sandra,

I don't think it would be a big development task. We would just need to recognise that the form did not have a doc or odt file attached and then when request to print or download not invoke a merge but just print directly or download to browser.

Would need to still JIRA and get estimation of time to develop from Tim though :-)

Cheers Tony

On 3/06/09 1:04 PM, "Sandra" :

> Sandra @ Bellarine

Hi Tony,

At times we would like to be able to load a pdf

> document as a patient form and don't need to merge patient details. Some

> examples just today are submission forms from three different organisations.  > I tried scanning these and loading them on but when scanned they also turn > into pdf documents.  I did a print screen and pasted them into a word document > but the quality was poor.  I don't want them to be an attachment because I > would like them to be within OpenVPMS so that vets don't have to browse for > them elsewhere. I would prefer not to have to re-type them, I think that would > be a waste of time.

Would this me a major development? 

Is there anyone else

> out there that would like this > function?

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Adding a template

Sandra @ Bellarine

 

Thanks Tony, that would be great!

Sandra.

Re: Adding a template

Hi Sandra,

I have added the following JIRA for this new feature.

https://openvpms.atlassian.net/browse/REP-6

Cheers Tony

On 3/06/09 2:09 PM, "Sandra" :

> Sandra @ Bellarine

 

Thanks Tony, that would be

> great!

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Pdf files in Openvpms

Sandra @ Bellarine

Hi Tony,

Do we have a costing or time frame on this Jira?

Sandra.

Re: Pdf files in Openvpms

Hi Sandra,Here is the relevant JIRA entry with estimated hours documented.//openvpms.atlassian.net/browse/REP-6">https://openvpms.atlassian.net/browse/REP-6Can't see on Project Page so may need Matt to add.  CheersTony On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 3:06 PM, <sandra@bellvet.com.au> wrote:
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Re: Pdf files in Openvpms

Hi guys,

I had missed this forum topic.

Just to clarify, we are seeking to be able to have a document that does not merge patient data, link to a patient or customer.  In the context of the discussion, pdf format documents were discussed. The proposed solution is to allow pdf or other static documents in new Templates so that they appear with the other Document Templates when adding a new Document. Currently when a document is selected in the Documents tab of a Customer or Patient, it is possible to use a "Print" button.

Clarification 1:

It is unclear from the JIRA discussion whether the "Print" option would apply to these documents or not. Would the "Print" button be inactive and the intended method of printing these documents to download them and use the pdf handler for the browser?

I have created an active project in anticipation.

I think this discussion raises some interesting points about the document management system within OpenVPMS at the moment. I have started a new topic to discuss it.

Cheers,

Matt C

 

 

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:21:28 +1100, wrote:

Hi Sandra,

Here is the relevant JIRA entry with estimated hours documented.

//openvpms.atlassian.net/browse/REP-6">https://openvpms.atlassian.net/browse/REP-6

Can't see on Project Page so may need Matt to add. 

CheersTony

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Adding a pdf file to OpenVPMS

Sandra @ Bellarine

Hi Matt,

I definitely want to print these documents.  They are often forms that are emailed to me or that I get from a website that I want staff to have easy access to.

I realise I can save adobe files as an attachment but I don't want them to be an attachment because I would like them to be within OpenVPMS so staff can access them easily as they do all other forms in templates.  I don't want staff to have to browse for them elsewhere.  I hope this makes sense.

Sandra.

Re: Adding a pdf file to OpenVPMS

Hi Sandra, I think it is wirth getting confirmation from the developers that this is possible before Seeking Funding on this one. Time suggested in passing that Openoffice may be able to handle the print request from the application but I'm not sure he intended this to be a key requirement of the project. Cheers, Matt C

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:27:09 +0000 (UTC), sandra@bellvet.com.au wrote:

> Sandra @ Bellarine > Hi Matt, > I definitely want to print these documents.  They are often forms that are

> emailed to me or that I get from a website that I want staff to have easy > access to. > I realise I can save adobe files as an attachment but I don't want them to

> be an attachment because I would like them to be within OpenVPMS so staff > can access them easily as they do all other forms in templates.  I don't > want staff to have to browse for them elsewhere.  I hope this makes > sense. > Sandra. > _______________________________________________ > OpenVPMS User Mailing List > users@lists.openvpms.org > To unsubscribe or change your subscription visit: > http://lists.openvpms.org/listinfo/users > Posts from this mailing list can be viewed online and replied to in the > OpenVPMS User's forum- http://tinyurl.com/openvfu >

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Adding a new template

Hi Guys,

I think this is definitely possible but the question is can we manage the printing process or will this need to be done externally.  i.e when you hit Print if the document type cannot be printed by Open Office or directly somehow we would download the document to the Browser which would open in its normal viewer (Adobe, Image Viewer, Fax Viewer etc) and you would have to Print from this application. 

Alternatively if cannot be handled by application directly then Print button disabled and you need to clcik on icon to download and print as above.

Cheers

Tony

Adding a new template

Sandra @ Bellarine

 

Hi Tony,

In your first option, when you click the PRINT button would one of these other programs open automatically so you could then print it?

Sandra.

Adding a new template

Hi Sandra,

This would depend on how your browser is setup to handle downloads but essentially yes.  If we can't print directly the content would be downloaded to the browser which would check the various content type settings to see what it should do .. open in a specific application, open in a viewer , prompt to save or just save.  So operates the same  as what happens now when you click on a image or attachment icon. 

 

Cheers

Tony

Using PDF's etc within OpenVPMS

Sandra @ Bellarine Hi Tony, Thanks for that, I see the Jira lists the estimated time to complete as 12 hours, not sure of the hourly rate.  What does that make the costing? Sandra.

Using PDF's etc within OpenVPMS

Sandra @ Bellarine

Hi Tony,

Thanks for that, I see the Jira lists the estimated time to complete as 12 hours, not sure of the hourly rate.  What does that make the costing?

Sandra.

Re: Using PDF's etc within OpenVPMS

Hi Sandra,Around $900 ex GST I believe ..  Matt can confirm.CheersTony On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 1:49 PM, <sandra@bellvet.com.au> wrote:

Sandra @ Bellarine Hi Tony, Thanks for that, I see the Jira lists the estimated time to complete as 12 hours, not sure of the hourly rate.  What does that make the costing? Sandra. _______________________________________________ OpenVPMS User Mailing List users@lists.openvpms.org To unsubscribe or change your subscription visit: //lists.openvpms.org/listinfo/users" target="_blank">http://lists.openvpms.org/listinfo/users Posts from this mailing list can be viewed online and replied to in the OpenVPMS User's forum- //tinyurl.com/openvfu" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/openvfu

Costing on pdfs within OpenVPMS

Hi guys, sorry about slow response on this one.

 

$900 is right. I need the OpenVPMS treasurer to confirm if these estimates have been inclusive or exclusive of GST. I have been calculating as inclusive. Pete?

 

Matt C

Also re pdfs in OpenVPMS

Also Sandra,

Before I set this one into motion, the specification is just this;

 

"Support static non merged customer and patient form content such as pdf or tif"

 

There are no other formats specified and the printing option is not included in the specification. These documents will download and then be handled by thr browser according to browser settings.

eg. clicking on the pdf template will download the pdf and then the browser will either save it to a local location or open it in a pdf reader such as adobe reader (according to browser settings).

 

Given there has been no other comments other then yours Sandra on this issue, I want to make sure this is what you want. :)

 

Matt C

New Template Type

Sandra @ Bellarine

Hi,

This was discussed at the Vic Users Meeting. 

Can I just make sure this development when funded will allow users to access documents that do not require any merging within OpenVPMS. These will include PDF's?

Sandra.

Re: New Template Type

Hi Sandra, The project currently set up to allow this is here htt://www.openvpms.org/project/support-other-customer-and-patient-form-content-types (cut and paste after www to work)

The idea of a new type of document selector has breifly been discussed here; htt://www.openvpms.org/forum/printing-patient-letter-check#comment-2750

but I am going to copy that post to a new forum topic and invite discussion. It was point 3) from the Users meeting minutes here htt://www.openvpms.org/forum/victorian-users-meeting-monday-19th-july

Matt C

On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 03:44:02 +0000 (UTC), sandra@bellvet.com.au wrote:

> Sandra @ Bellarine > Hi, > This was discussed at the Vic Users Meeting.  > Can I just make sure this development when funded will allow users to > access documents that do not require any merging within OpenVPMS. These > will include PDF's? > Sandra. > _______________________________________________ > OpenVPMS User Mailing List > users@lists.openvpms.org > To unsubscribe or change your subscription visit: > http://lists.openvpms.org/listinfo/users > Posts from this mailing list can be viewed online and replied to in the > OpenVPMS User's forum- http://tinyurl.com/openvfu >

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New Template Type

Hi Matt,

I went to the address  www.openvpms.org/project/support-other-customer-and-patient-form-content... and posted a comment  in August.  I'm obviously having a blonde moment! Where do we pledge to?

Sandra.

New Template Type

Hi everyone,

I am working my way through the various posts in the lead up to the close of Version 1.5 user pledges and came across Sandra's query on this project.

Sorry Sandra. You can pledge to me by emailing direct to me via this link (only works in forums) or replying in the forums.

Re: Adding a new template

Hi,

I just tried to load some pet insurance claim forms on OpenVPMS so that all clinics have easy access to them. I rarely use OpenVPMS anymore and when I got the message 'unsupported document template' it rang some bells so I jumped on the forums to referesh my memory. I've just read through our discussions above, has anything progressed in this area since 2009-2010?

Sandra.

Re: Adding a new template

Sandra I am still "converting" pdf to ODT templates (painful) but in the end it gives me flexibility...

btw what did you mean

I rarely use OpenVPMS anymore

Did you change to a new system? if so what drove you away from OpenVPMS?

Re: Adding a new template

Two replies in one post:

a) Sandra - go look at http://www.openvpms.org/documentation/csh/1.7/admin/template

b) Ben - I just had to convert a horrendous Excel Spreadsheet used to build a hospital work sheet. It turned out to be easy. a) print spreadsheet as a pdf; b) use a good quality pdf to Word converter (I use PDF Converter Pro from Nuance) and then open that document in Open Office Writer, and go from there.

Regards, Tim G

Re: Adding a new template

Hi Ben,

I've had a look at that link, I'm not sure how that helps me?

Sandra.

Re: Adding a new template

Hi Ben,

No the clinic still uses OpenVPMS, my role has changed and I now hide away in an office and do payroll, accounts payable,etc.

Sandra.

Re: Adding a new template

You can get this error message if you try and use a PDF to perform document merging.

The Administration|Templates screen will allow you to upload a PDF as a template, but when you try and create a Patient Form using the template, you'll get an error like:

Unsupported document template: myform.pdf

If you want customer and patient data to be merged into the form, then you need to convert it to an OpenOffice or Word document first.

If you just want to use the form as an attachment, then this is not supported. The workaround is to place it on a shared drive, and then upload it to Customer/Patient Attachments as required.

Update: re-reading the entire thread, this project was created to handle static content such as PDFs in the same way as templates. PDFs wouldn't be printed by OpenOffice; if you tried to print a Patient Form that had a PDF template, the PDF would be downloaded so you can print them within Adobe Reader.

-Tim

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