Bubbles on schedule

Hi,

Has there been a fix for the bubbles on the schedule continuing off the page out of the line of view. The notes that are typed there are difficult to see, I thought? that the note bubbles were going to be directed in towards the middle of the screen and not off the screen. Is someone able to give me an update, maybe it's been done and we haven't changed it on our system?

Sandra.

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Re: Bubbles on schedule

Hi Sandra,

I can't see any JIRA entry relating to this issue so on that basis it would have been fixed. I assume it happens on the extreme right column of the schedule ?

I think we went down the customisable schedule text road and forgot about this issue. I.e. Notes in schedule cell and turn off bubble option we implemented.

We can definitely JIRA this as well but can't be sure it will get into 1.4 ..

Cheers Tony

On 10/09/09 2:50 PM, "Sandra" :

> Hi, > > Has there been a fix for the bubbles on the schedule continuing off the page > out of the line of view. The notes that are typed there are difficult to see, > I thought? that the note bubbles were going to be directed in towards the > middle of the screen and not off the screen. Is someone able to give me an > update, maybe it's been done and we haven't changed it on our system? > > Sandra. > _______________________________________________ > OpenVPMS User Mailing List > users@lists.openvpms.org > To unsubscribe or change your subscription visit: > http://lists.openvpms.org/listinfo/users > Posts from this mailing list can be viewed online and replied to in the > OpenVPMS User's forum- http://tinyurl.com/openvfu

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Bubbles on schedule

Sandra @ Bellarine

Hi Tony,

Yes, it is a problem in the right hand column of the schedule.  I thnk the answer may be some training for me on customising the schedule? 

Can anyone tell me if customising their schedule has got rid of this problem?

Would I contact our implementer for this training?

Sandra.

Re: Bubbles on schedule

Hi Sandra,

Customising the schedule will only get rid of the problem if you turn off the bubbles and display the notes in the schedule cell instead.

The display in schedules can be edited in the display expression field in the schedule view. The schedule view editor has a test button which displays some common expressions and allows you to test what they would look like. That plus some guidance here may be enough to get you going.

Alternatively you can hand the task over to your implementer :-)

Cheers Tony

On 15/09/09 10:25 AM, "Sandra" :

> Sandra @ Bellarine

Hi Tony,

Yes, it is a problem in the right hand column of

> the schedule.  I thnk the answer may be some training for me on customising > the schedule?  Can anyone tell me if customising their schedule has got rid of

> this problem? Would I contact our implementer for this

> training?

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Bubbles on schedule

Sandra @ Bellarine

Hi Tony,

I'd like to have a go at this myself, I'll contact our implementer for some guidance.

Sandra.

 

Re: Bubbles on schedule

Hey Sandra, We just use text (no bubbles). Here is are a couple of text expressions we use and their context:

Our Surgery worklist: concat(substring(openvpms:get(., 'customer.name'),0,20),' - ',substring(openvpms:get(., 'patient.name'),0,15), '\n', substring(openvpms:get(.,'act.description'),0,35), '\n', openvpms:get(.,'act.statusName'), ' ', openvpms:get(., 'waiting') )

Our Radiology worklist (we use this to display patient IDs for entry into our pacs - I need to DOB to this :) ) concat(substring(openvpms:get(., 'customer.name'),0,20),' - ',substring(openvpms:get(., 'patient.name'),0,15),'(',openvpms:get(., 'patient.objectReference')/id,')', '\n', substring(openvpms:get(.,'act.description'),0,35), '\n', openvpms:get(.,'act.statusName'), ' ', openvpms:get(., 'waiting') )

Our Consulting Schedule View concat(substring(openvpms:get(., 'customer.name'),0,20),' - ',substring(openvpms:get(., 'patient.name'),0,15), '\n', substring(openvpms:get(.,'act.description'),0,35), '\n', openvpms:get(.,'act.statusName'), ' ', openvpms:get(., 'waiting') )

Note we truncate our text fields to prevent overflow.

Hope it helps, Matt C

On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 04:42:22 +0000 (UTC), sandra@bellvet.com.au wrote:

> Sandra @ Bellarine > Hi Tony, > I'd like to have a go at this myself, I'll contact our implementer for some

> guidance. > Sandra. >   > _______________________________________________ > OpenVPMS User Mailing List > users@lists.openvpms.org > To unsubscribe or change your subscription visit: > http://lists.openvpms.org/listinfo/users > Posts from this mailing list can be viewed online and replied to in the > OpenVPMS User's forum- http://tinyurl.com/openvfu >

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Bubbles on Schedule

Sandra @ Bellarine

Matt Costa you are a legend!!!  Thankyou so much!

Sandra.

Worklist & Schedule Views

Sandra @ Bellarine

Hi,

I used the text expressons above (thanks again Matt) and I would like to make two changes to our worklist & schedule views. 

1. On the WORKLIST VIEW  in the waiting room there is no waiting time at all and the vets really want this.

2. On our SCHEDULE VIEW  the waiing times appear but they keep ticking over, even when the consult is marked as completed and the client has left the building.

Does anyone have a solution for this?

Sandra.

 

Re: Worklist & Schedule Views

Hi Sandra,I am not sure Worklists actually have a status of Checked-in which actually triggers the display of the waiting time but I am sure the expressions could be changed to display the time since the task was added to the list.  Will need to play.. I will check but if a worklist task was created during check-in from an appointment the two are linked and any status update on the task will be reflected in the appointment as well. To make the task status change though you need to utilise the Consult and Check-Out buttons in the worklist (or scheduler) as these work flows actually do the updates.  If you navigate to charges or patient medical records manually no status update will occur. To be honest I tend to advise practices to not utilise a waiting room worklist approach for Out-Patient appointments and to work directly from the scheduler instead.  Simpler, single screen to monitor all Out Patient activity.  The worklists are best used for In Patient work i.e Hospital, Surgery lists etcCheersTony On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 2:07 PM, <sandra@bellvet.com.au> wrote:

Sandra @ Bellarine Hi, I used the text expressons above (thanks again Matt) and I would like to make two changes to our worklist & schedule views.  1. On the WORKLIST VIEW  in the waiting room there is no waiting time at all and the vets really want this. 2. On our SCHEDULE VIEW  the waiing times appear but they keep ticking over, even when the consult is marked as completed and the client has left the building. Does anyone have a solution for this? Sandra.   _______________________________________________ OpenVPMS User Mailing List users@lists.openvpms.org To unsubscribe or change your subscription visit: //lists.openvpms.org/listinfo/users" target="_blank">http://lists.openvpms.org/listinfo/users Posts from this mailing list can be viewed online and replied to in the OpenVPMS User's forum- //tinyurl.com/openvfu" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/openvfu

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Re: Worklist & Schedule Views

Hi guys,

I think we reported the waiting time clock not stopping way back when we started using text expressions. The expression seems to calculate time since checked in (activity_start_time) then show the difference since from then until current time. In my investigation I have not been able to find that OpenVPMS stores wait times or that they can be derived from start and end times of other events. I'm sure that could be changed if enough clinics wanted to audit this and have it in a report.

With respect to the waiting room "worklist" vs waiting room "schedule" debate, in our hands the single screen model described by Tony has worked better. When showing clinics the system, we have had varied feedback as to what they would prefer. Some rx users seem to prefer that their waiting room is task based rather then schedule based. We considered using it, but we found the status linkages between scheduler and worklist were not consistently applied. It has been too long for me to remember the details, but given very few users were using the worklists  as a waiting room manager, I never pursued the issue. The reason we tried it from memory, was becuase we thought that it might better manage events like phone calls and other non consultation tasks that also appear in our consulting schedule view.

Cheers,

Matt C

 

 

On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:56:40 +1100, wrote:

Hi Sandra,

I am not sure Worklists actually have a status of Checked-in which actually triggers the display of the waiting time but I am sure the expressions could be changed to display the time since the task was added to the list.  Will need to play..

I will check but if a worklist task was created during check-in from an appointment the two are linked and any status update on the task will be reflected in the appointment as well. To make the task status change though you need to utilise the Consult and Check-Out buttons in the worklist (or scheduler) as these work flows actually do the updates.  If you navigate to charges or patient medical records manually no status update will occur.

To be honest I tend to advise practices to not utilise a waiting room worklist approach for Out-Patient appointments and to work directly from the scheduler instead.  Simpler, single screen to monitor all Out Patient activity. 

The worklists are best used for In Patient work i.e Hospital, Surgery lists etc

CheersTony

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 2:07 PM, <sandra@bellvet.com.au> wrote:

Sandra @ Bellarine Hi, I used the text expressons above (thanks again Matt) and I would like to make two changes to our worklist & schedule views.  1. On the WORKLIST VIEW  in the waiting room there is no waiting time at all and the vets really want this. 2. On our SCHEDULE VIEW  the waiing times appear but they keep ticking over, even when the consult is marked as completed and the client has left the building. Does anyone have a solution for this? Sandra.   _______________________________________________ OpenVPMS User Mailing List users@lists.openvpms.org To unsubscribe or change your subscription visit: //lists.openvpms.org/listinfo/users" target="_blank">http://lists.openvpms.org/listinfo/users Posts from this mailing list can be viewed online and replied to in the OpenVPMS User's forum- //tinyurl.com/openvfu" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/openvfu

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Re: Worklist & Schedule Views

Hi Matt,I believe using the start time and current time to calculate waiting time is correct in this case as the waiting room task would have been created by the scheduler check-in process and the start time set appropriately.   On the scheduler we have an arrival time and use this instead of start time as the start time is used for the appointment date and time information.  Still the waiting time is calculated from the arrival time and current time.  The thing that makes the waiting time stop counting on the scheduler  screen is it is not displayed when the status changes in In progress, Billed, Completed.  If you actually changed an appointment from In progress back to checked-in it would redisplay the waiting time .. still counting.   So I think we would have to do the following to get this working the way Sandra wants:1.  Add Checked-in status to tasks.2.  Change Check-In process to set task initial status to Checked-In not In-Progress. 3.  Provide a display expression to allow the waiting time to be displayed (as we have with schedule views).It is worth noting that any check-in process would then operate this way but different views could choose to display the waiting time or not.  If people are happy with this it is easy to implement so I can JIRA.  I haven't been able to replicate the issue with status updates in work lists not propagating to the associated appointment yet.  May need some more information on when it occurs to diagnose and fix. :-)Cheers Tony

Re: Worklist & Schedule Views

Hi Tony,

But dont you think Waiting time is better defined as the time from check in to starting the consultation?

I don't think these added features in worklists will have a place in our clinic,  so probably not a high priority one for us at least.

Matt C

 

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:24:33 +1100, wrote:

Hi Matt,

I believe using the start time and current time to calculate waiting time is correct in this case as the waiting room task would have been created by the scheduler check-in process and the start time set appropriately.   On the scheduler we have an arrival time and use this instead of start time as the start time is used for the appointment date and time information.  Still the waiting time is calculated from the arrival time and current time.  The thing that makes the waiting time stop counting on the scheduler  screen is it is not displayed when the status changes in In progress, Billed, Completed.  If you actually changed an appointment from In progress back to checked-in it would redisplay the waiting time .. still counting.  

So I think we would have to do the following to get this working the way Sandra wants:1.  Add Checked-in status to tasks.2.  Change Check-In process to set task initial status to Checked-In not In-Progress. 3.  Provide a display expression to allow the waiting time to be displayed (as we have with schedule views).

It is worth noting that any check-in process would then operate this way but different views could choose to display the waiting time or not.  If people are happy with this it is easy to implement so I can JIRA.  I haven't been able to replicate the issue with status updates in work lists not propagating to the associated appointment yet.  May need some more information on when it occurs to diagnose and fix. :-)

Cheers Tony

Re: Worklist & Schedule Views

Hi Matt,Could definitely implement that way but not currently the way it works.  :-)CheersTony On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:38 AM, mpcosta <mpcosta@boroniavet.com.au> wrote:

Hi Tony,

But dont you think Waiting time is better defined as the time from check in to starting the consultation?

I don't think these added features in worklists will have a place in our clinic,  so probably not a high priority one for us at least.

Matt C

 

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:24:33 +1100, wrote:

Hi Matt,I believe using the start time and current time to calculate waiting time is correct in this case as the waiting room task would have been created by the scheduler check-in process and the start time set appropriately.   On the scheduler we have an arrival time and use this instead of start time as the start time is used for the appointment date and time information.  Still the waiting time is calculated from the arrival time and current time.  The thing that makes the waiting time stop counting on the scheduler  screen is it is not displayed when the status changes in In progress, Billed, Completed.  If you actually changed an appointment from In progress back to checked-in it would redisplay the waiting time .. still counting.   So I think we would have to do the following to get this working the way Sandra wants:1.  Add Checked-in status to tasks.2.  Change Check-In process to set task initial status to Checked-In not In-Progress. 3.  Provide a display expression to allow the waiting time to be displayed (as we have with schedule views).It is worth noting that any check-in process would then operate this way but different views could choose to display the waiting time or not.  If people are happy with this it is easy to implement so I can JIRA.  I haven't been able to replicate the issue with status updates in work lists not propagating to the associated appointment yet.  May need some more information on when it occurs to diagnose and fix. :-)Cheers Tony

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Re: Worklist & Schedule Views

The problem that we are having with the waiting time on the scheduler for the past month or so, is that the clock is no longer disappearing or stoppping when the status changes. Even when complete, the time keeps ticking over. You can go to the screen from last week and it is still progressing! Is this just us or is it system wide? This makes consulting from the scheduler quite difficult (as we consult from Clinician screen, not status) as you cannot easily see who is in the waiting room. We could switch over to consulting from status, but then we lose the ability to see easily who the consult is for, which is why we consult from a waiting room worklist. So either if there is a time indicator from when the tasks were added to the worklists (which may be good for hosp patients too) or switch the waiting time back to disappear when the status changes.

The other thing that I have noticed with status linkages etc, is that now when you change the status either in a worklist or on the scheduler of a linked appointment, both statuses (is that a word?) change. This however only works if you are consulting and checking out, not navigating manually. But if while you are consulting and doing a no charge consult or finalising within the invoice (eg if you have a euth that they are going to pay for later, they duck out the back door and so they don't go through reception and have a "proper check out", the status remains in progress.

 

Amanda

 

Amanda Hulands-Nave Bellarine Veterinary Practice

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