Patient form description at checkout

Submitted by bellvet on Wed, 08/07/2009 - 17:11

General User's Discussion

Hi,

I'm pretty sure this has been raised before but I can't find it on the forums.

In the PRINT box at check-out we have the option to print or not to print patient forms/invocies by unticking the print box. In the right hand column of this box there is a DESCRIPTION COLUMN. Can the form/document name be listed there so staff know what they are selecting to print. It would save us heaps of paper. I have attached a copy of the screen so you know what I mean.

Sandra.

Patient form description at checkout

Submitted by Samantha (not verified) on Wed, 08/07/2009 - 17:47.

That sounds like a great idea sandra, it can be difficult to tell what you are printing at times. Good thinnking 99

Re: New or updated comment for General User's Discussion Forum t

Submitted by Matt C on Sat, 05/09/2009 - 09:28.

Hi guys,
I thought this was done in version 1.3?
details here - https://openvpms.atlassian.net/browse/OVPMS-860

I would have to check but I think this already happens with our install.

Matt C

Patient form description at

Submitted by tony on Thu, 09/07/2009 - 08:49.

Hi Sandra,

This request was JIRA'd and completed in version 1.3

https://openvpms.atlassian.net/browse/OVPMS-860

But definitely looks like not operating as expected in your current version. Works here as you can see

Are other 1.3 users experiencing the same issue ?

Cheers
Tony

Re: Patient form description at

Submitted by Matt C on Thu, 09/07/2009 - 12:00.

Pretty certain this is working for us as intended.

On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 22:49:59 +0000 (UTC), tony@openvpms.org wrote:

> Hi Sandra, > > This request was JIRA'd and completed in version 1.3 > > https://openvpms.atlassian.net/browse/OVPMS-860 > > But definitely looks like not operating as expected in your current > version. Works here as you can see > > Are other 1.3 users experiencing the same issue ? > > Cheers > Tony > _______________________________________________ > OpenVPMS User Mailing List > users@lists.openvpms.org > To unsubscribe or change your subscription visit: > http://lists.openvpms.org/listinfo/users > Posts from this mailing list can be viewed online and replied to in the > OpenVPMS User's forum- http://tinyurl.com/openvfu >

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Re subscription rates for overseas clinics and not-for-profit or

Submitted by PeterG on Fri, 10/07/2009 - 00:00.

//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> Hi All, We have recently had inquiries from overseas and also not-for-profit clinics about subscriptions to OpenVPMS. I believe the subscription model that we have is very reasonable and provides access to our very good software at a very affordable rate but I can see that this might not necessarily apply in these two cases for 2 different reasons. Firstly, one inquiry has been from a group of Mexican veterinarians who work in relatively poor areas. In an effort to get an idea of the relative wealth of their practice I asked them what they charged for a consultation and it turns out to be around $12 US (about $15 au today but who knows tomorrow.....). So it seems that the real cost to a Mexican veterinarian would be 3-4 times the cost to ourselves. Secondly, we have had a couple of inquiries from not for profit groups who are servicing poor communities, mainly by desexing local dogs and cats. These groups have limited incomes and are struggling to get best value from their financial resources. So my question to our community is should we have a means of scaling our subscription fee according to the wealth of a particular nation, and how would we measure this? Further to this should we have a discounted subscription (perhaps a percentage - somewhere between 50 and 100%) that might apply over and above this for not-for-profit bodies and what proof would we need to ascertain their status? I would very much appreciate your views on this matter, particularly if you have any insight into the circumstances under which some of these clinics might exist. Regards Peter mpcosta wrote:

type="cite"> Pretty certain this is working for us as intended. On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 22:49:59 +0000 (UTC), tony@openvpms.org wrote:
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Descriptions

Submitted by paravet (not verified) on Mon, 20/07/2009 - 20:13.

From a brief look at our templates it seem that a lot do not have an entry in the description column so presumably this would need to be edited/add a desciption and it should work?

Nick

Re: Descriptions

Submitted by Tony De Keizer (not verified) on Tue, 21/07/2009 - 09:00.

Hi Nick,

The check-out print dialogue doesn't use the template description it actually uses the patient form description you can enter directly in the created patient document which is usually blank unless you edit. If it is blank then the print dialogue displays the template file name as this is most likely a better indication of the content being used.

Saying this we have identified a bug which occurs for documents that are created during invoicing. The document filename is not being stored in the patient document so we believe this is the reason some document have no description in the print dialogue.

Cheers Tony

On 20/07/09 8:13 PM, "Paradisevets@Internode. Net" :

> From a brief look at our templates it seem that a lot do not have an entry in > the description column so presumably this would need to be edited/add a > desciption and it should > work?

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Printing documents

Submitted by Matt C on Mon, 20/07/2009 - 19:13.

Hi everyone,

This should be my last post for tonight. Sorry for the barage of emails for those who get notifications but I only get to look at the forums intermittently.

This is in response to the Print query raised by Sandra.

It occurred to me that the best time to be asked if a document that is linked to a product should be printed is when it is billed or added to medical record. More specifically whenever a User creates a Document, an option to Print that document should be provided.

In other words something like this;

a) User bills Product, "SURGERY TO CUT OFF EAR" in a new Invoice. This surgery is linked to a Form "POST EAR REMOVAL INFO" & "POST GA INFO"

b) User presses "OK"

c) Program currently adds the Form to Documents but as well as this it pops up a print dialog for each form in sequence.

I would see this behaviour replacing the current "Collect all documents currently unprinted" style currently used.

Those who used to use Netvet should recognise this style.

I have done some calculations and given that most users will print most documents immediately after creation anyway (so they are waiting at reception rather then waiting to be printed) this will save many clicks.

Cheers,

Matt C

Re: Printing documents

Submitted by Tony De Keizer (not verified) on Tue, 21/07/2009 - 09:00.

Hi Matt,

I agree we should have an option to print generated documents immediately at invoicing but from feedback the ability to print all documents at time of discharge is a good feature and should be maintained.

Currently if a document is unprinted it it included in the check out print dialogue so people can still have the option to print immediately or not. If printed it will not print at check-out.

I also suggest the addition of a flag in the template to indicate if it should print immediately or not. This way you can limit the number of prompts.

Cheers Tony

On 20/07/09 7:13 PM, "Mpcosta@Boroniavet. Au" :

> Hi everyone, This should be my last post for tonight. Sorry for the barage of

> emails for those who get notifications but I only get to look at the forums > intermittently.

This is in response to the Print query raised by Sandra.

> occurred to me that the best time to be asked if a document that is linked to > a product should be printed is when it is billed or added to medical record. > More specifically whenever a User creates a Document, an option to Print that > document should be provided.

In other words something like this;

a) User

> bills Product, "SURGERY TO CUT OFF EAR" in a new Invoice. This surgery is > linked to a Form "POST EAR REMOVAL INFO" & "POST GA INFO" b) User presses

> "OK" c) Program currently adds the Form to Documents but as well as this it

> pops up a print dialog for each form in sequence.

I would see this behaviour

> replacing the current "Collect all documents currently unprinted" style > currently used.

Those who used to use Netvet should recognise this style.

> have done some calculations and given that most users will print most > documents immediately after creation anyway (so they are waiting at reception > rather then waiting to be printed) this will save many clicks.

Cheers,

Matt

> C

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Re: Printing documents

Submitted by Matt C on Tue, 21/07/2009 - 17:00.

Hi Tony, I agree with all of this. Might even make it into an active development project if others are interested. Matt

On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 08:22:00 +1000, Tony De Keizer

wrote:

> Hi Matt, > > I agree we should have an option to print generated documents immediately > at > invoicing but from feedback the ability to print all documents at time of

> discharge is a good feature and should be maintained. > > Currently if a document is unprinted it it included in the check out print

> dialogue so people can still have the option to print immediately or not. > If printed it will not print at check-out. > > I also suggest the addition of a flag in the template to indicate if it > should print immediately or not. This way you can limit the number of > prompts. > > Cheers > Tony > > > On 20/07/09 7:13 PM, "Mpcosta@Boroniavet. Au" : > >> Hi everyone, > This should be my last post for tonight. Sorry for the barage of >> emails for those who get notifications but I only get to look at the >> forums >> intermittently. > This is in response to the Print query raised by Sandra. > > It >> occurred to me that the best time to be asked if a document that is >> linked to >> a product should be printed is when it is billed or added to medical >> record. >> More specifically whenever a User creates a Document, an option to Print >> that >> document should be provided. > In other words something like this; > > a) User >> bills Product, "SURGERY TO CUT OFF EAR" in a new Invoice. This >> surgery is >> linked to a Form "POST EAR REMOVAL INFO" & "POST GA INFO" > b) User presses >> "OK" > c) Program currently adds the Form to Documents but as well as this it >> pops up a print dialog for each form in sequence. > > I would see this behaviour >> replacing the current "Collect all documents currently unprinted" style >> currently used. > Those who used to use Netvet should recognise this style. > > I >> have done some calculations and given that most users will print most >> documents immediately after creation anyway (so they are waiting at >> reception >> rather then waiting to be printed) this will save many clicks. > Cheers, > Matt >> C > _______________________________________________ > OpenVPMS User Mailing >> List > users@lists.openvpms.org > To unsubscribe or change your subscription >> visit: > http://lists.openvpms.org/listinfo/users > Posts from this mailing list >> can be viewed online and replied to in the OpenVPMS User's forum- >> http://tinyurl.com/openvfu > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenVPMS User Mailing List > users@lists.openvpms.org > To unsubscribe or change your subscription visit: > http://lists.openvpms.org/listinfo/users > Posts from this mailing list can be viewed online and replied to in the > OpenVPMS User's forum- http://tinyurl.com/openvfu >

Document description at checkout

Submitted by bellvet on Tue, 21/07/2009 - 13:24.

Sandra @ Bellarine

Hi Tony,

I think that sounds good. The flag idea is good, the less prompts the better for the vets/nurses when invoicing.

In the document box at checkout can it default to no tick (not print) so that staff actually have to ask it to print?

Sandra.

Re: Document description at checkout

Submitted by Tony De Keizer (not verified) on Tue, 21/07/2009 - 16:00.

Hi Sandra,

Not sure if this would be the default for all documents and practices ?

Maybe better to define in template what checkout printing default is ...

Cheers Tony

On 21/07/09 1:24 PM, "Sandra" :

> Sandra @ Bellarine

Hi Tony,

I think that sounds good. The flag idea is good,

> the less prompts the better for the vets/nurses when invoicing. In the

> document box at checkout can it default to no tick (not print) so that staff > actually have to ask it to > print?

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Update on Document Printing

Submitted by bellvet on Mon, 07/09/2009 - 14:29.

Sandra @ Bellarine

I still really like the idea's proposed above by Tony & Matt, being able to select documents to print at invoicing would be great.

In relation to the description not appearing in the printing box at checkout - and the bug that Tony identified for documents that are created during invoicing. Will this bug be fixed for the next release?

Sandra.

Re: Update on Document Printing

Submitted by Tony De Keizer (not verified) on Mon, 07/09/2009 - 18:00.

Hi Sandra,

Definitely intend to but just working out the best method :-)

Cheers Tony

On 7/09/09 2:29 PM, "Sandra" :

> Sandra @ Bellarine I still really like the idea's proposed above by Tony &

> Matt, being able to select documents to print at invoicing would be great. In

> relation to the description not appearing in the printing box at checkout - > and the bug that Tony identified for documents that are created during > invoicing. Will this bug be fixed for the next > release?

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Print option for linked documents during Invoicing

Submitted by Matt C on Tue, 08/09/2009 - 11:37.

Hi everyone,

I had forgotten about this suggestion so thanks Sandra for finding it and refreshing the discussion.

The idea was to have a document print prompt appear when invoicing an item that has a linked document. Examples where this might be useful is the generation of patient information that you need prior to the checkout process. Or if you have documents that are always printed, so you might as well print them during billing so the reception process is that tiny bit faster. There have been a few options that have been suggested to make sure it does not become a time killer whilst billing (ie. many dialogs popping up all over the place).

a) A document template can be set to automatically print as soon as the item is billed. eg. "Print Document Immediately". If the template is set to Interactive, a print dialog will appear.

b) The default for whether a template is set to be printed (Tick in the Print box) in the Checkout process is able to be set to True or False. This prevents the need for staff to untick boxes if the practice does not routinely print that document but still needs it created.

Can I get some indication of interest in this idea so I can make it into a development project.

Incidentally, if you are wondering where all the development projects "Under Discussion" are, we are having a little trouble with the filter on the active development area. Matt Y will fix it when he gets a chance.

Cheers,

Matt C

Re: Print option for linked documents during Invoicing

Submitted by chris (not verified) on Tue, 08/09/2009 - 13:00.

Sounds like a good idea to meCheersChris On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:37 AM, <mpcosta@boroniavet.com.au> wrote:

Hi everyone, I had forgotten about this suggestion so thanks Sandra for finding it and refreshing the discussion. The idea was to have a document print prompt appear when invoicing an item that has a linked document. Examples where this might be useful is the generation of patient information that you need prior to the checkout process. Or if you have documents that are always printed, so you might as well print them during billing so the reception process is that tiny bit faster. There have been a few options that have been suggested to make sure it does not become a time killer whilst billing (ie. many dialogs popping up all over the place).

a) A document template can be set to automatically print as soon as the item is billed. eg. "Print Document Immediately". If the template is set to Interactive, a print dialog will appear. b) The default for whether a template is set to be printed (Tick in the Print box) in the Checkout process is able to be set to True or False. This prevents the need for staff to untick boxes if the practice does not routinely print that document but still needs it created.

Can I get some indication of interest in this idea so I can make it into a development project. Incidentally, if you are wondering where all the development projects "Under Discussion" are, we are having a little trouble with the filter on the active development area. Matt Y will fix it when he gets a chance.

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Document Printing

Submitted by bellvet on Tue, 15/09/2009 - 10:53.

Sandra @ Bellarine

Hi Matt, When you say True or False do you mean that each practice can tag a particular document in the template to automatically have a tick next to it in the print box at checkout or to NOT have a tick?

Sandra.

Re: Document Printing

Submitted by Matt C on Tue, 15/09/2009 - 17:00.

Hi Sandra, Yes that is exactly what IO meant :) Matt C

On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 00:53:02 +0000 (UTC), sandra@bellvet.com.au wrote:

> Sandra @ Bellarine > Hi Matt, When you say True or False do you mean that each practice can tag

> a particular document in the template to automatically have a tick next > to it in the print box at checkout or to NOT have a tick? > Sandra. > _______________________________________________ > OpenVPMS User Mailing List > users@lists.openvpms.org > To unsubscribe or change your subscription visit: > http://lists.openvpms.org/listinfo/users > Posts from this mailing list can be viewed online and replied to in the > OpenVPMS User's forum- http://tinyurl.com/openvfu >

Document printing project created!

Submitted by Matt C on Tue, 15/09/2009 - 17:46.

Hi all,

This project has been created here

www.openvpms.org/project/document-printing-during-invoicing-and-default-options-printing-during-checkout

This project has been JIRA'd here jira.openvpms.org/jira/browse/OVPMS-900

I suspect Tony & Tim will have some questions for precise details before they can cost this.

Will keep you all informed.

Matt C

Printing at Invoicing Project Funding Update (10%)

Submitted by Matt C on Mon, 19/10/2009 - 10:28.

This project has been costed at $325 and 10% has already been pledged!

The exact specification is as follows:

a) A document template has an option to "Print at Checkout"
b) Behaviour associated with "Interactive" option as follows:

1. Checkout true. Interactive True.
This would be set if you want to option to print immediately at billing (interactive dialogue) but if you don't print (cancel) the document will be presented at checkout and automatically selected. If you do print then obviously print flag set so will not appear in checkout document list.

2. Checkout true. Interactive False.
This would be set if you always want the document printed at Checkout and do not want it printed at billing. At checkout the document will be listed and automatically selected. You can manually de-select.

3. Checkout False. Interactive True.
Set if want option to print immediately at billing (interactive dialogue) but if don't print will appear in checkout list but will be deselected.

4. Checkout False. Interactive False.
Don't prompt for print immediately and display in checkout list de-selected.

Cheers,

Matt C

Re: Printing at Invoicing Project Funding Update (10%)

Submitted by chris (not verified) on Tue, 20/10/2009 - 09:00.

MattPut me in for 50%CheersChris On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 11:28 AM, <mpcosta@boroniavet.com.au> wrote:

This project has been costed at $325 and 10% has already been pledged! The exact specification is as follows:

a) A document template has an option to "Print at Checkout" b) Behaviour associated with "Interactive" option as follows: 1. Checkout true. Interactive True. This would be set if you want to option to print immediately at billing (interactive dialogue) but if you don't print (cancel) the document will be presented at checkout and automatically selected. If you do print then obviously print flag set so will not appear in checkout document list.

2. Checkout true. Interactive False. This would be set if you always want the document printed at Checkout and do not want it printed at billing. At checkout the document will be listed and automatically selected. You can manually de-select. 3. Checkout False. Interactive True. Set if want option to print immediately at billing (interactive dialogue) but if don't print will appear in checkout list but will be deselected. 4. Checkout False. Interactive False. Don't prompt for print immediately and display in checkout list de-selected. Cheers, Matt C _______________________________________________ OpenVPMS User Mailing List users@lists.openvpms.org To unsubscribe or change your subscription visit: //lists.openvpms.org/listinfo/users" target="_blank">http://lists.openvpms.org/listinfo/users Posts from this mailing list can be viewed online and replied to in the OpenVPMS User's forum- //tinyurl.com/openvfu" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/openvfu

Description of Document at checkout bug

Submitted by bellvet on Mon, 19/10/2009 - 14:33.

Hi Tony,

In regard to our previous posts above from 7th September and the description not appearing in the box at checkout, has this been included in the jira?

Sandra.

Re: Description of Document at checkout bug

Submitted by Tony De Keizer (not verified) on Mon, 19/10/2009 - 16:00.

Hi Sandra,I have fixed this issue already and it is included in the 1.4 update :-)CheersTony On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 3:33 PM, <sandra@bellvet.com.au> wrote:

Hi Tony, In regard to our previous posts above from 7th September and the description not appearing in the box at checkout, has this been included in the jira? Sandra. _______________________________________________ OpenVPMS User Mailing List users@lists.openvpms.org To unsubscribe or change your subscription visit: //lists.openvpms.org/listinfo/users" target="_blank">http://lists.openvpms.org/listinfo/users Posts from this mailing list can be viewed online and replied to in the OpenVPMS User's forum- //tinyurl.com/openvfu" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/openvfu

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