Anyone in the U.S. using this? and the closer to the far north suburbs of Chicago the better

Anyone in the U.S. using this? and the closer to the far north suburbs of Chicago the better.

I am currently using Idexx Cornerstone. I have hated it since day one. It is nothing what they say it is and in many cases a step backward from my previous software.

I tried the demo and of course I was just muddling around and not getting a good feel for it.

I use an electronic prescription pad, C-Stone does not have one and not in sight for the future. 

I have multiple county rabies certificate and C-Stone can only handle one. also C-Stone cannot count and know the next certificate number and a separate tag number. 2 - different tag number series and 4 different fees for the registration.

these are a few of my favorite complaints.

If there is someone in the US using the software the 

Ed McGinniss

Animal Hospital of Lake Villa

Lake Villa, IL

USA 

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Re: Anyone in the U.S. using this? and the closer to the far ...

Ed - yes there is one long term user in West Chester PA, a multi-site user in Texas, and one in Kamloops, BC.

While we are not as international as we would like (we spell 'color' as 'colour') a lot of work has gone into the up-coming 1.9 release to support US/Canadian users. Specifically there is now an option to handle your (to us peculiar) desire to see prices without the tax included, and the package includes versions of all documents and reports in US Letter format. [We hope to release 1.9 in August/September]

OpenVPMS is not going to answer all your prayers - for example, although a patient can have as many Rabies Tags, Pet Tags, and Microchips as you want, and you can have multiple products associated with rabies tags, the system does not auto-suggest the next number.

However, if you need this feature and are willing to contribute to its cost, then it can be added.  1.9 contains a lot of boarding kennel support that was commisioned by the Texas user.

"close as possible to North Chicago": I would not worry too much about this. I look after my son's practice in Hong Kong - around 14 hours away physically, but only seconds via the net. In fact, the nearest practice I help with is around 1.5 hours by car, and I have never been there.

"played with the demo system": you may not have discovered the documentation - worth having a look at - see http://www.openvpms.org/documentation/csh

Regards, Tim G

Re: Anyone in the U.S. using this? and the closer to the far ...

Ed,

We're the users in Kamloops that Tim G. mentioned above.  Like Tim, I'm not the vet but provide support to my wife's vet practice.  She and her vet partner also used Cornerstone as well as several other practice management packages over the years, and both are thrilled with OpenVPMS.  We see a lot of records coming in from other practices and it is universally agreed that ours are the best organized records of any of them.  And I guess that compared with other programs, the vets and support staff are finding this one much simpler and more intuitive to use.

As the computer guy, I was drawn to it because it's opensource and runs exceedingly well on Linux servers.  I understand that it works equally well in a Window's environment, but of this I have no direct experience.  The open-source nature of the project is extremely important to us.  For example, the record display defaults to a top-posting style, much in the way that most people write emails.  There is no means to easily select the bottom-posting order that the vets here were requesting.  But after an inquiry to the group, it was suggested that a simple change to two or three lines of code and a recompile of the source would provide the needed change.  So while not everyone would have the interest in doing so, with a little hand-holding, I was able to get that (and a few other desired changes) implemented.  This simply would not be possible using a closed-source product.

Out-of-the-box support for US/Canadian tax regimes is being implemented.  When we adopted OpenVPMS in 2014, there really was no support at all.  With a little tweaking of the reports, however, I was able to get OVPMS to apply and track both Provincial and Federal sales tax as is required here.  Our invoices and monthly reports are exactly what someone here would expect to see, and all of this was done merely by customizing the reports, with no change to the underlying database itself. So my point is that OVPMS is highly customizable at several levels.

While OVPMS is not yet ready to be installed and used straight-away in an American or Canadian practice, it is getting there.  And if you're willing to put in a bit of effort to make the adjustments you need while setting it up, I'm sure you'll find that in the end, the effort would have been well worthwhile.

I have to admit that I've found the demo system a bit frustrating since it necessarily runs in an environment where it is sometimes hard to see what the output would look like.  While I am not familiar with how it is set up, in many cases reports on the demo seem to fail because it is looking for a printer that doesn't exist.  And of course with all kinds of crazy and incomplete data being put in, lord knows what you'll see.

If you are interested in seeing what kinds of things can be produced, perhaps let me know and I can email you some of our practices typical documents (anonymized invoices, financial reports, certificates, etc.).  I think it may give a better feeling for how things can be customized.  Tony G. may also be able to provide output of some of the incredibly flexible templates he's been producing for version 1.9.  Also, if you're into virtualization, I could perhaps forward a VirtualBox appliance, a clone of our Linux server with a small sample database, that you could bring up on either a Linux or Windows desktop and tweak for your own environment.  Anyway, I'd be happy to help you through that if you want.

As you can see, we're pretty enthusiastic about it.  I have to admit, however, that we only take advantage of some of its capabilities.  For example, we feel we're too small to implement the stock-tracking features, and so just don't bother.  For other practices, I'm sure that is very important.  And finally, let me say that the support we have received from Tim G., Tim A., Ben, Tony and several others, has just been fantastic.  It is a very well planned, implemented and supported product and it has been a pleasure to work with them.  

Thanks for your interest,

Sam Longiaru

Aberdeen Veterinary Hospital

Kamloops, BC Canada

 

 

Re: Anyone in the U.S. using this? and the closer to the far ...

Tim thanks,

I was hoping to see it live. I am in the process of going through the documentation. That is rather laborious. I wanted to get a feel for it so I jumped right in and promptly got lost. ;-D  

converting my current data is the next concern. I am trying to get a feel for things, look into conversion, convince my staff that the pain of change is good. my soft target goal is switch at the end of the year.

Ed

oh yeah, I need to figure out your terminology. there needs to be a AU-english to US-english dictionary or glossary. ;-) 

Re: Anyone in the U.S. using this? and the closer to the far ...

Ed:

a) seeing it live - I will contact you off-forum - I suspect that guided walk-through using teamviewer and skype should be some benefit.

b) data conversion - as per http://www.openvpms.org/documentation/csh/1.9/topics/installing-openvpms... we use Pentaho Kettle for migration. I dug into the Cornerstone documentation and it appears to use Sybase SQL Anywhere as the database, which Kettle can access. From experience the simplicity of the conversion is directly related to how much validation your existing system imposes. RxWorks 3 did not and I had to invest a lot of effort in cleaning up the data. If Cornerstone allows Shih Tzu to be spelt as Shih Tse, Shih Tsu, Shih Tsz, Shih Tze, Shih Tzu, Shih Tzu, Shihtsu, Shihtzu, and Shitzhu there is a potential need to clean this up - though your staff may spell better than ours.

Bottom line: conversion is possible and feasible but requires some technical skills, and it is possible to shut down the old system at 2am and bring up OpenVPMS (with the complete 10 years worth of data and transactions) at 6am.

c) Oz/US English - humm - I would be interested in what gave you grief.

Regards, Tim G

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